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the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the states going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote actually because, again, we have laws in place that would not permit them to vote. >> but they're showing up on registration lists and where they end up going. >> what would happen is actually this is a fact that, you know, technology allows for them to be knocked out, and that kind of fraud is not going to happen. but we have a problem with people trying to conjure up people that they want to vote republican, and important is this particular company had allegations before in 2004 about registering people and throwing away democratic registration forms. >> i want to get to you about the role of the rnc. nob
the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the states going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote...
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numbers, but the governor showed that he understands policy and he understands how to make policy into law, talking about what he did in massachusetts. >> governor, i want to give you a chance to maybe take it back, did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think -- i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do this work. he didn't want to prepare for this debate. he's lazy and disengaged. >> i think that there certainly was a performance issue there and whether or not he was in his best perform last night, a lot of people are questioning that, just the one-on-one against mitt romney, mitt romney turned in a very strong performance. but i think to call the president lazy and disengaged is another question. >> whatever. >> we've been doing fact check on both sides. questioned whether the president was accurate when he said social security only needs tweaking, we've questioned a lot of issues. mitt romney, let me ask you a couple of questions about what he's had to say abou
numbers, but the governor showed that he understands policy and he understands how to make policy into law, talking about what he did in massachusetts. >> governor, i want to give you a chance to maybe take it back, did you really mean to call barack obama the president of the united states lazy? >> yes. i think -- i think you saw him admit it the night before when he delivered the pizzas. he said, you know, they're making me do this work. he didn't want to prepare for this debate....
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law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania in taction and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vintcation for the people of pennsylvania. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting? >> well, we only need to look fe facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latinos. that's why we're winning. we're fighting back and winning. >> bill clinton, who is very good at making things simple, as we know, he's done it again this summer, he said this
law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in...
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let me ask you about the law that the state party filed this complaint with the secretary of state. what is the legal requirement now by the secretary of state's office? what kind of -- does it get moved to criminal action or is this sort of a state ethics investigation? >> i think at this stage, chuck, it's probably a state ethics investigation. the secretary of state's office will certainly look into it, try to make a fair determination of what's really going on here. but i think bigger picture is what the legislature has done here in florida and other states as it relates to early voting and voter suppression if you will. that's really the big problem we're facing coming up on this presidential election in just 30 or so days and it's effecting not only early voting in the early voting hours, but it's also affected voting by mail. what i mean by that is the only way somebody can validate who they are when they vote by mail and send that ballot in is by the signature that they utilize and making sure that that signature they sign matches the one at the supervisor of election office
let me ask you about the law that the state party filed this complaint with the secretary of state. what is the legal requirement now by the secretary of state's office? what kind of -- does it get moved to criminal action or is this sort of a state ethics investigation? >> i think at this stage, chuck, it's probably a state ethics investigation. the secretary of state's office will certainly look into it, try to make a fair determination of what's really going on here. but i think bigger...
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law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if ohio folks don't move in the next days after the debate, time for romney folks to cash in ohio. >> you take the media hit for a couple of days there, but ohio, pennsylvania, they represent a type of voter or a group of voters would know romney needs. tries to make up ground on the auto bailouts saying that is not exactly what i meant at the time, i was really in line with what played out there, we know it was not but the type of voter or the group of voters in ohio that we have talked so much about, white males in particular, working class, middle class people, th
law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if...
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these laws are -- the republicans say these laws will stop voter fraud. and what these judges are saying is there is not real evidence of voter fraud, and certainly not enough to necessitate laws that are disproportionately would affect minorities and elderly votes. saying these laws are not necessary. and in texas and in ohio, in wisconsin, they've been thrown out by judges. >> karen, have supporters of some of these laws, have -- not only the desired result not been achieved, but has the backlash been one that has emboldened some groups? i can't remember where i read the article. it may have been the "washington post" there was a group of black women basically saying they had been motived to go door to door. >> yep. >> to recruit more voters as a result of this? >> well, i think it certainly has motivated people to make sure they understand the way the laws were changing. but the other thing i didn't hear perry talk about is in many of these instances, what was changed is the requirements and saying to people you have to go get a new form of identificat
these laws are -- the republicans say these laws will stop voter fraud. and what these judges are saying is there is not real evidence of voter fraud, and certainly not enough to necessitate laws that are disproportionately would affect minorities and elderly votes. saying these laws are not necessary. and in texas and in ohio, in wisconsin, they've been thrown out by judges. >> karen, have supporters of some of these laws, have -- not only the desired result not been achieved, but has...
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law from taking effect this november, the same law that won top state republican said would help mitt romney win pennsylvania. most republicans usually don't admit as much, prefrg to frame their efforts around, quote, preventing voter fraud. but in a twist it appears that republicans may be the ones responsible for all the suspicious activity this year. last week the rnc fired a group called strategic allied consulting after accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms. if the republican party was shocked, perhaps it shouldn't have been. the firm is owned by a gop operative named nathan stroul sproul whose voter activities were investigated by the justice department though no charges filed. in a sign of people who want to legitimately exercise their right to vote, voters in ohio slept on the street overnight to be the first to cast their ballots when early voting began this morning in that state. joining us now is the host of politics nation, here on msnbc, the one, the only, reverend al sharpton. great to see you. >> glad to be here. >> let's talk about the pennsylvania
law from taking effect this november, the same law that won top state republican said would help mitt romney win pennsylvania. most republicans usually don't admit as much, prefrg to frame their efforts around, quote, preventing voter fraud. but in a twist it appears that republicans may be the ones responsible for all the suspicious activity this year. last week the rnc fired a group called strategic allied consulting after accused of submitting fraudulent voter registration forms. if the...
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laws has been a hot topic, so obviously it addresses that. sarah silverman, not a megastar, but somebody who does sort of get that youth interest. why do you think that ad was so popular? >> people love sarah, and if you saw the whole ad, it was something you wouldn't play on tv. >> exactly. that's the part we could play. >> it was a lot saltier than tv would allow us. she's been political along the way. she tried to get old jewish people to vote in florida the last election, and she's had a very funny, very clear voice. she says a lot of things pore people just won't say. >> howard bragman, always love having you here. i see you tomorrow at the big wedding. >> we'll dance. >> thank you so much. indeed. >>> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is getting high-powered attention after all. last night he had a 75-minute one on one with secretaries of state hillary clinton. today he's scheduled to talk with president obama and governor romney by phone. yesterday the prime minister made this impassioned plea before the u.n. general assembly t
laws has been a hot topic, so obviously it addresses that. sarah silverman, not a megastar, but somebody who does sort of get that youth interest. why do you think that ad was so popular? >> people love sarah, and if you saw the whole ad, it was something you wouldn't play on tv. >> exactly. that's the part we could play. >> it was a lot saltier than tv would allow us. she's been political along the way. she tried to get old jewish people to vote in florida the last election,...
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i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. wthe future of our medicare andr electiosocial security. for... [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? man 1: i want facts. straight talk. tell me your plan... and what it means for me. woman 2: i'm tired of the negative ads and political spin. that won't help me decide. man 2: i earned my medicare and social security. and i deserve some answers. anncr: where do the candidates stand on issues that... affect seniors today and in the future? find out with the aarp voters' guide at earnedasay.org >>> i think scott brown and linda mcmahon and a lot of candidates out there are really going to be in trouble if the national republicans now go back on their word and come in here and try to fund todd akin. >> well, missouri senator claire mccas
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law. all the details. and on ttter using the #edshow. >>> thanks for wching "the ed show." mitt romney is runng behind in the polls. he needs to bring his a game tomorrow night. does he has have a game? romney has an uphi climb on his hands. done some al damagto the campaign. is being given analysis by the americaneople. >> that infamous piece otape american peopl st poll shows just 23% of likely votersay romy's comments made th tnk more 45% said it madefeel more romn senior adviser ed gillese sa they are expecting the 47% remark to come up in tomorrow's date and is prepared to an it and address it. we believe the voters willee and appreciate the facat overnor romney'salking about uld improvthe ity ericans. joining me tonight is msnbc political analysrichd wolffe and host of "now with alex wagn",lex wagner. congratulations on your show. it's realltaken off. >> thank you, ed. >> there's dage here. mee polls owt. you can almost feel it. richard, how does heeverse the damage tomorrow night? >> if he'srte the debate as a c reintroduce himselto the american people. he blew that
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laws in four states remain but tougher laws in at least six other states were either shelved or watered down, including those in a few swing states. >>> american airlines now says it knows why passenger seats broke loose causing a pair of emergency landings. they originally called for 8 of its aircraft to be inspected, later ordered 47 aircraft to be checked. they blame the problem on clamps that were not properly installed. they continue a contentious renegotiation over its labor agreements. both the airline and union representing its mechanics deny labor issues played know role in the seat problem. >>> here's your "first look" at some of the other news going on around america today. we are going to begin in minnesota where a wheelchair bound suspect suffered a brutal beating while in police custody. the officer pummeled the intoxicated man and pulled him out of his chair after being hit in the face. the department has now placed that officer on administrative leave and requested he be charged with assault. tough to watch there. >>> next to texas where a passer-by sprang into action to
laws in four states remain but tougher laws in at least six other states were either shelved or watered down, including those in a few swing states. >>> american airlines now says it knows why passenger seats broke loose causing a pair of emergency landings. they originally called for 8 of its aircraft to be inspected, later ordered 47 aircraft to be checked. they blame the problem on clamps that were not properly installed. they continue a contentious renegotiation over its labor...
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that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking into the matter. the mechanics of the election are upon us now. this was ohio today. yes, those are tents. people were sleeping in them because early voting started in ohio today and people slept out to be first in line. is technically, he did quash it and this should ought to be the most important thing. the bottom line here, in pennsylvania is that as of this judge's ruling today, you do not have to have a driver's license or another form of government issued i.d. election and how it is run. and in some ways how the election is being run and how the campaign prepares for it looks a litt
that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking...
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and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory businesses. nobody thinks you can do this anymore, right? lives were lost and a lot of blood was shed to enforce that principle, but it is settled now, right? until the last couple of years. when kentucky republican rand paul won a seat in the united states senate in 2010. it was after a campaign in which he said the 1964 civil rights act made him uncomfortable. he wasn't sure that anybody should be able to tell a private business that, for example, you have to serve black people. >> would you have voted for the civil rights act of 1964? >> i like the civil rights act in the sense that it ended discrimination in all public domains and i'm all in favor of that. but -- you had to ask me the but. but i don't like the idea of telling private business owners. i ab who are racism. i think it's a bad idea
and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory businesses. nobody thinks you can do this anymore, right? lives were lost and a lot of blood was shed to enforce that principle, but it is settled now, right? until the last couple of years. when kentucky republican rand paul won a seat in...
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that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking into the matter. the mechanics of the election are upon us now. this was ohio today. yes, those are tents. people were sleeping in them because early voting started in ohio today and people slept out to be first in line. first lady was in ohio today not just to persuade people and to inspire people to vote for her husband but to persuade them to do so right this second which people in ohio could do starting today. in most of the swing states, early voting is happening already. and yeah the campaigns are still trying to sway people and there's the debate tomorrow. but we are now into it. w
that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking...
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since 2010 republicans have been passing law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to block the laws in texas, south carolina and florida. we saw it when governors in six states all but one were democrats, vetoed voter i.d. laws. they were champions of democracy to do so. and we saw it when state and federal courts rejected laws in eight states, including today's major ruling in pennsylvania. this morning a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect
since 2010 republicans have been passing law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania, in texas, and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vindication for the people of pennsylvania. who would have been disenfranchised by it. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting to keep from voting? >> well, we only need to look at the facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latino
law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still...
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under a new law so-called conversion therapy will be banned for anyone under 18. california governor jerry brown issued a statement saying the therapies have quote, no basis in science or medicine. >>> a devastating new attack in afghanistan to talk about today. a suicide bomber killed 14 people including three american soldiers in the volatile eastern province of khost. it comes a day after the death toll in the 11-year-old war in afghanistan reached 2,000. but that number does not include the number of americans injured in afghanistan and who died when they were transferred elsewhere. which would then raise the total to over 2100. nbc news has special coverage today across the middle east. lester holt joins us live now at the afghan capital of kabul. that number 2,000 representing only americans who died in afghanistan not those who were injured in the country. but didn't die until they were transported wrels. that's a big distinction. this is a major marker to reach now with the number of casualties. >> it is. and we've been talking about a number over 2100 for
under a new law so-called conversion therapy will be banned for anyone under 18. california governor jerry brown issued a statement saying the therapies have quote, no basis in science or medicine. >>> a devastating new attack in afghanistan to talk about today. a suicide bomber killed 14 people including three american soldiers in the volatile eastern province of khost. it comes a day after the death toll in the 11-year-old war in afghanistan reached 2,000. but that number does not...
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but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass restrictive new voting laws since president obama won in 2008. so far 17 states have successfully passed restrictive votesing laws since president obama won the white house. republicans in ohio tried to squash early voting. the gop tried to purge the voter roles in florida. the republicans have claimed all along they are trying to stop voter fraud. but look what happens. it turns out they are the ones who were cheating. a get out the vote scandal is rocking the republican party. strategic allied consulting was hired to help register voters. now they are firing th
but today the judge blocked a key part of the law. his ruling means voters will be asked for an i.d. but they can go ahead and vote without one. the ruling only covers this election. the decision is bad news for republicans in pennsylvania. earlier this year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 states to pass...
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since 2011, 34 states introduced laws requiring photo id, and 9 states passed photo id laws. it turns out the only wide spread case come from a republican group. there's also stories of outright voter intimidation taking place. the koch brother funded group true the vote is engaging in a voter suppression effort in the state of ohio. according to the l.a. times, the names selected for purging include hundreds of college students, trailer park residents, homeless people and african-americans in counties president obama won in 2008. tonight the fox affiliate in denver, colorado is reporting the state republican party has terminated its relationship with the same voter registration firm accused of fraud down in the state of florida. it happened after this videotape surfaced of a young woman only registering voters who support mitt romney. >> i am polling people but do you vote for romney or obama? >> i thought you were registering voters a minute ago. >> i am, i am. >> and who are you registering? all voters? >> i'm actually trying to register people for a particular party becau
since 2011, 34 states introduced laws requiring photo id, and 9 states passed photo id laws. it turns out the only wide spread case come from a republican group. there's also stories of outright voter intimidation taking place. the koch brother funded group true the vote is engaging in a voter suppression effort in the state of ohio. according to the l.a. times, the names selected for purging include hundreds of college students, trailer park residents, homeless people and african-americans in...
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virginia voters opposed that law by 17 points. the anti-abortion crusade that has been undertaken this year by republican-led state government in virginia is not popular in virginia. and now virginia women are prepared to take it out on the presidency, right? they're planning to vote against the republicans' candidate for president in their state by 18 points. and that was the context for a really important move made by virginia's republican attorney general this week, a move that could be important for the presidential race in virginia. this week the attorney general certified a new set of regulations targeted only at abortion clinics in the united states. the rules are just targeting abortion providers. it red tape specifically designed is to make it economically impossible to operate an abortion clinic in virginia. that's what's expected to happen in the state. most clinics are in danger of being closed once the rules go into effect. they initially voted to exempt existing clinics from the red tape. b and now these new rules ar
virginia voters opposed that law by 17 points. the anti-abortion crusade that has been undertaken this year by republican-led state government in virginia is not popular in virginia. and now virginia women are prepared to take it out on the presidency, right? they're planning to vote against the republicans' candidate for president in their state by 18 points. and that was the context for a really important move made by virginia's republican attorney general this week, a move that could be...
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virginia voters opposed that law by 17 points. the anti-abortion crusade that has been undertaken this year by republican-led state government in virginia is not popular in virginia. and now virginia women are prepared to take it out on the presidency, right? they're planning to vote against the republicans' candidate for president in their state by 18 points. and that was the context for a really important move made by virginia's republican attorney general this week, a move that could be important for the presidential race in virginia. this week the attorney general certified a new set of regulations targeted only at abortion clinics in the united states. the rules are just targeting abortion providers. it red tape specifically designed is to make it economically impossible to operate an abortion clinic in virginia. that's what's expected to happen in the state. most clinics are in danger of being closed once the rules go into effect. they initially voted to exempt existing clinics from the red tape. and now these new rules are
virginia voters opposed that law by 17 points. the anti-abortion crusade that has been undertaken this year by republican-led state government in virginia is not popular in virginia. and now virginia women are prepared to take it out on the presidency, right? they're planning to vote against the republicans' candidate for president in their state by 18 points. and that was the context for a really important move made by virginia's republican attorney general this week, a move that could be...
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law. the five changes are so convoluted in detail, we couldn't find a way to simplify them for you to read on screen. imagine you are a voter trying to keep up with those changes, to understand what you need to do in order to vote or imagine you are a worker at the penndot office responsible for actually following the rules to make sure that voters get the proper i.d. and information. where once there was clarity, now there is just confusion. which was the conclusion drawn by this report from the pennsylvania budget and policy center. last month, volunteer observers made 44 visits to the penndot driver's license centers in 35 pennsylvania counties to assess the implementation of one of those five changes. an alternate i.d. that the state designed for voters that lacked the document to obtain a traditional nondriver's i.d. in almost 50% of the cases, the volunteers who are were stand-ins for actual voters were given inaccurate or incompetent information at penndot offices. one penndot emplo
law. the five changes are so convoluted in detail, we couldn't find a way to simplify them for you to read on screen. imagine you are a voter trying to keep up with those changes, to understand what you need to do in order to vote or imagine you are a worker at the penndot office responsible for actually following the rules to make sure that voters get the proper i.d. and information. where once there was clarity, now there is just confusion. which was the conclusion drawn by this report from...
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law in pennsylvania, the strict new i.d. law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road putting this into effect like we've already seen, he says. he believes that the gap between the photo i.d.'s issued and the estimated need cannot be closed before the election. in other words, he says all the people who would have to get new photo i.d.s, he doubts there is enough time for them to get them. he says i'm not convinced in my predictive judgment there won't be any voter disenfranchisement arising out of this new law. pennsylvania in march passed this new law requiring voter i.d.s. people started going to get them and the state said, w
law in pennsylvania, the strict new i.d. law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are...
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>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afg
>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that...
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with some confidence that they'll take the voting rights act case is because of the way the federal law works. if you get turned down by the federal government, the congress virtually requires the supreme court to hear those. i think it's likely they'll take up the voting rights challenge and the defense of marriage. >> pete williams, always good to see you. thanks. >> my pleasure. >>> the first day of the term prompts today's tweet of the day. luke johnson says john roberts is back from his island fortress. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. that make kids happy. and even fewer that ma moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate incre
with some confidence that they'll take the voting rights act case is because of the way the federal law works. if you get turned down by the federal government, the congress virtually requires the supreme court to hear those. i think it's likely they'll take up the voting rights challenge and the defense of marriage. >> pete williams, always good to see you. thanks. >> my pleasure. >>> the first day of the term prompts today's tweet of the day. luke johnson says john...
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i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going to get this economy jump-started. we're going to open markets in trade in central and south america where we have real opportunities. but on the tax reform, i think it is important that he is pretty bold in his specifics in saying he is going to limit upper income people's ability to get all the deductions. but he is not going to do it on the middle class. i think he has been specific and i think that's just been kind of glossed over. >> let me fill in some blanks here. he has said he is going to get rid of the estate tax though and he has said that he is not going to raise the rate on nonincome from -- o
i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going...
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law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the same workers, mitt romney said he would honor their temporary visas and allow the workers to say in the u.s. if he becomes president. this of course, is that executive order that the president signed. mitt romney had not said whether he was going to keep that order in place or rescind it. he says now, you can keep it in place. >>> one border patrol agent has been killed in a shooting near the mexico/arizona border. we're following that story. we'll get you more updates as we get them. >>> in today's deep dive, president
law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the...
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no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing the work for him and mitt romney has been doing the work for his campaign. we'll see what happens going forward. pout a question, the obama supporters were on their heels last night. were disappointed. wondering, where was this guy who they've been seeing in the tv commercials going so hard at mitt romney? he was clearly trying to be too presidential and not going after romney. >> we can't escape the fact. four of the last five incumbent presidents had lost the first debate. it's unbelievable. you have to say there is something to this. >> they're not used to being challenged in a way that he was for 90 minutes. you alone command the stage. his performance style reminded me of a press conference in the white house where he grips the podium. he does these long answers. john f. kennedy used to do 15 questions in 30 minutes. >> one of those. he's so used to be being on home turf. i don't think he took romney that serious
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the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want that you're going to have to have a certificate, birth certificate with a raised seal and three other forms of identification. well, that was a problem. so then the state said, okay, here is what we're going to do. we'll issue a new form of i.d. that's good only for voting, and they started to do that, but they said you could only get that if you couldn't qualify for the other forms. then they changed their mind on that. so what the judge finally said is, i think the state now has it about right, that it's easy to g
the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want...
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. >> tonight jimmy welcomes ice t from "law & order," justin kirk from "animal practice" and hunter hayes, a favorite around here. that is "late night with jimmy fallon." all right, time now for some entertainment news. it's the weekend. let's check out the box office. an animated film about a vampire inn keeper is expected to suck the life out of its rivals. it's about a high end hotel operated by dracula. it's expected to pull in $28 million to $38 million. >> so a time traveling hitman and bruce willis is the hitman. >> good reviews. >> analyst who's are experts say it should land in the high teen millions. >>> and prospect for the education drama "won't back down" aren't as good. it may gross in the $5 million range. elsewhere, it is a boy for reese witherspoon and her talent agent husband who married last year. congratulations to them. cool name here, tennessee james. he's named after witherspoon's home state. >> that sounds like a country song. >> and lil wayne has overtaken elvis presley's record for a top 100 hits. a record that stood uncontested. all right. here's a talker. kelly
. >> tonight jimmy welcomes ice t from "law & order," justin kirk from "animal practice" and hunter hayes, a favorite around here. that is "late night with jimmy fallon." all right, time now for some entertainment news. it's the weekend. let's check out the box office. an animated film about a vampire inn keeper is expected to suck the life out of its rivals. it's about a high end hotel operated by dracula. it's expected to pull in $28 million to $38...
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and i went to law school, and while i was in law school, i started working part-time at the nbc affiliate there. but after law school i took the bar, and i went and practiced for a short time. and i started, i guess just wondering if i could somehow combine the two. i guess i wasn't done with tv. i still had these hopes to combine journalism, and now this new education i had in the law. and so i decided to start sending tapes around trying to get a job and i ended up getting a job at court tv. >> can we back up? you said that you took the bar. shouldn't you be a little more obvious about the way you blistered through the bar? you owned the bar. >> no. >> come on! >> that is just -- actually that's quite embarrassing because the bar exam is a pass/fail test. you don't try to get an "a" on the bar exam. you just try to pass. and if you do more than that you're just stupid. you have just wasted a lot of time. that's how i feel about it. >> but you were the top scorer on the bar. >> well -- >> say thanks for bringing that up, alex. appreciate letting everyone know. >> like i said, that just m
and i went to law school, and while i was in law school, i started working part-time at the nbc affiliate there. but after law school i took the bar, and i went and practiced for a short time. and i started, i guess just wondering if i could somehow combine the two. i guess i wasn't done with tv. i still had these hopes to combine journalism, and now this new education i had in the law. and so i decided to start sending tapes around trying to get a job and i ended up getting a job at court tv....
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state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it. color lock technology. exclusively from your benjamin moore retailer. find your perfect color with a buy one, get one pint offer. visit benjaminmoore.
state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank...
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those popular deductions will remain in the law. and what will happen is that we'll cut government services and they've already said what they want to cut. big bird is a little tiny part of it. >> yeah. >> they want to gut medicare, they want to gut social security. they want to increase military spending way beyond what the pentagon wants when we're shutting down these two wars. >> all right. i want to play this. here's what romney said regarding deductions of outsourcing. here it is. >> as you said, you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? look, i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant. >> what's he lying about here? >> there are a whole varieties of subsidies that go to companies that move overseas. there's a report out momentarily, or recently, about $168 million. that's a small part of it. one of the fundamental rules here is that american corporations are allowed to build up untaxed profits offshore. american companies are sitting on $6 trillion
those popular deductions will remain in the law. and what will happen is that we'll cut government services and they've already said what they want to cut. big bird is a little tiny part of it. >> yeah. >> they want to gut medicare, they want to gut social security. they want to increase military spending way beyond what the pentagon wants when we're shutting down these two wars. >> all right. i want to play this. here's what romney said regarding deductions of outsourcing....
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law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s there this ruling is an icing or cherry on top. i don't think they would have won the state regardless, less likely today. >> and when you look at the fact that early voting is starting in ohio, iowa, all these states already voting, how does that affect the way the candidates are spending their time and money? >> you're actually seeing them literallies and president obama's rallies he had been going to in ohio last week, were all about getting the early vote out, making sure people were registered and saying hey, remember, folks
law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s...
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he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt who won the debate by putting the president on the defensive, spoke directly to voters and there was a moment or two of humor. will we see the same mitt on the trail for the past 16 months. you be the judge. here he is stopping by a colorado cpac meeting before leaving denver. >> last night i thought was a great fuopportunity for the american people to see two different visions for the country. i think it was helpful to be able to describe those visions. i saw the president's vision as trickle-down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. >> all right. let's put it through the spin cy
he said that he doesn't even know that there's such laws that encourage outsourcing, never heard of them. he said if it's true, he must need a new accountant. we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney, because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. >> that guy's a winner. mitt romney joining paul ryan this evening in my home state of virginia, but which mitt will show up? the mitt...
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it's not defending the law, but a group from the republican congress is defending it. >> they're also going to have to look at california's prop 8, to review that, the amendment to the constitution is that marriage is between a man and a woman. >> they look at that and the lower courts threw that out. they said that under the supreme court's precedence in another case about gay rights, that the california voters could not amend the constitution to exclude same-sex marriage once same-sex marriage had already been offered in california. >> higher education admissions. at the heart of this case, abgait fisher, because fisher says she was denied to the university of texas because she is white. what factors would affect their ruling? >> the court has ruled before that diversity is a compelling government interest. the government in other words has an interest, universities have an interest in compiling diverse classes of students, that diversity helps everyone and that they can look at an applicants's race in making some of those decisions. the court has changed since that last decision, t
it's not defending the law, but a group from the republican congress is defending it. >> they're also going to have to look at california's prop 8, to review that, the amendment to the constitution is that marriage is between a man and a woman. >> they look at that and the lower courts threw that out. they said that under the supreme court's precedence in another case about gay rights, that the california voters could not amend the constitution to exclude same-sex marriage once...
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are they talking about liberals trying to suppress and depress them when they are actually passing laws trying to suppress our votes? >> indeed. in 33 states no less have they attempted this. professor dieson -- dyson let me play you the official republican response. take a listen. >> it's totally different. we at this point have an allegation, that mere allegation has caused us to act, act swiftly and boldly and sever or tie was this firm because we have a zero tolerance when it comes to this. the other side clearly engaged for a long time in inappropriate behavior. we don't believe that that's appropriate and we wanted to make a swift and bold action to illustrate that. >> professor dyson, he's saying this scandal is different because democrats do this all the time. i mean, you have to give it to mr. spicer. he knows how to stick to a script, doesn't he? >> he said he wasn't chastened, but he is. he's out chasing more votes somewhere else. he's not chasing them where he had them before. the reality is that this is the flagrant disregard for truth that is so typical of right wing ideol
are they talking about liberals trying to suppress and depress them when they are actually passing laws trying to suppress our votes? >> indeed. in 33 states no less have they attempted this. professor dieson -- dyson let me play you the official republican response. take a listen. >> it's totally different. we at this point have an allegation, that mere allegation has caused us to act, act swiftly and boldly and sever or tie was this firm because we have a zero tolerance when it...
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romney described the dodd frank reform law as the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. you have worked with some of those banks. so was it? or is that the biggest lie mr. romney told last night? >> as george kos stanza says, it's not a lie if you believe it. it's one of the most cynical comments we heard last night because i don't think i have ever heard mitt romney actually defend regulation. he actually said i'm going to scrap dodd/frank and put in place new regulations, presumably tougher regulations. if this is a kiss, he wants tougher regulations. let's stipulate for a moment that most of wall street is already in mitt romney's pocket, already going to vote for him, that's what i hear. i don't know many people on wall street who aren't already supporters of him. now he throws that hail mary pass at the last minute and says now i'm going to be critical of dodd/frank and critical of the regulation and ask for more regulation and also was going to cut everybody's taxes 20%. now i'm saying, no, no, no we're not doing that anymore. we're going to raise people's taxes. h
romney described the dodd frank reform law as the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. you have worked with some of those banks. so was it? or is that the biggest lie mr. romney told last night? >> as george kos stanza says, it's not a lie if you believe it. it's one of the most cynical comments we heard last night because i don't think i have ever heard mitt romney actually defend regulation. he actually said i'm going to scrap dodd/frank and put in place new regulations,...
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. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with the economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> you would be a reliable ally when it came to his economic plan? on his economic plan, you said there's nobody better. >> i would also like to read the bills. a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> meanwhile, a new set of polls show this race is close. polling from mass i think has it close. 18% of massachusetts voters are still undecided. and that means senator brown's seat is still up for grabs. for more on this tonight, let's turn to felix arroyo. you were at the first debate and of course, at this one again tonight. watched thi
. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to...